At Podcast Summit 2025, Ace Metaphor sits down for a fireside chat with David Shands to reveal the raw truth about touring, collaborations, and building an ecosystem around your brand.From the hidden costs of live events to creating multiple revenue streams beyond ticket sales, Ace breaks down how he scaled Tonight’s Conversation into a powerful movement.🔥 What you’ll learn in this chat:The real costs of touring (and how to actually make money)Why collaborations can hurt if you’re not preparedHow to build an ecosystem that prints opportunities (events → apps → products)Why filming everything fuels your growthThe power of selling to your audience instead of waiting on sponsorsIf you want to scale your brand, grow your podcast, or launch live events — this fireside chat is a masterclass.Subscribe to the Social Proof Podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6GT6Vgj... 👉🏽Get Your Tickets To: https://podcastsummit.com/registration👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾JOIN THE COMMUNITY TODAY: https://www.themorningmeetup.comGrab the Podcast EBOOK👇🏾 **http://www.podcastebook.comDavid on IG : https://www.instagram.com/dshands/Ace on IG https://www.instagram.com/acemetaphor/Our Sponsors:* Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://cash.app* Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://cash.app* Check out Storyblocks and use my code storyblocks.com/socialproof for a great deal: https://www.storyblocks.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy